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NBA Draft 2008: Shooting Guards

 

by Ed Weiland (6/19/08)

 

Last year’s crop of SGs was one of the weakest I’ve seen. This year it looks like one of the deeper groups. Most of the depth is of the lower round variety though. There’s very little star power in this group. OJ Mayo and Eric Gordon would seem to be potential stars, but both players have a ways to go before they’re at that level. Below them are a group of juniors and seniors who have developed into pretty decent prospects. They’re not on the level of a Mayo, but they’re certainly good enough that if I were a team drafting in the top 10, I wouldn’t feel bad about passing on Mayo or Gordon for a talented big man with the idea of drafting a SG in round 2. 

 

I haven’t had any new revelations with SGs in the past year, other than the fact that I’m not considering the A/TO ratio to be a huge deal unless it’s below 0.8. The statistics that I will look at as most important here will continue to be scoring at least 20.0 points per 40 minutes, regular and 2-point FG pct. of .425 and .500 respectively and a RSB40 of at least 7.0. If there are any other glaring negatives or positives involved, I’ll take those into account also, but I won’t get too serious about it.

 

Here are the pace adjusted stats:

 

 

Player

fgpct

3pct

2 pct

P40

A40

S40

TO40

A/TO

RSB40

pps

Douglas-Roberts, C

0.541

0.413

0.578

23.99

2.35

1.62

2.75

0.86

7.69

1.51

Foster, Shan

0.523

0.469

0.610

23.37

1.89

1.22

1.96

0.97

7.14

1.49

Giddens, JR

0.516

0.333

0.557

20.21

3.88

1.77

2.75

1.41

14.15

1.32

Kemp, Marcelus

0.449

0.380

0.490

24.67

4.08

0.86

3.03

1.35

7.93

1.33

Mayo, OJ

0.442

0.409

0.464

22.95

3.66

1.71

3.93

0.93

7.18

1.28

Roby, Richard

0.477

0.382

0.520

20.82

2.52

1.26

4.09

0.62

10.58

1.38

Lee, Courtney

0.477

0.397

0.515

26.70

2.72

2.36

3.05

0.89

9.74

1.35

Tyndale, Mark

0.488

0.368

0.525

17.32

4.65

1.73

3.75

1.24

10.26

1.48

Nelson, DeMarcus

0.490

0.388

0.532

17.67

3.58

1.90

3.01

1.19

9.34

1.41

Weaver, Kyle

0.463

0.364

0.491

15.73

5.58

2.22

3.58

1.56

9.93

1.43

Gordon, Eric

0.433

0.337

0.525

23.87

2.78

1.50

4.10

0.68

5.92

1.57

Rush, Brandon

0.435

0.419

0.448

17.81

2.85

1.12

2.42

1.17

9.10

1.22

Crawfod, Joe

0.469

0.364

0.548

21.75

2.59

0.69

3.36

0.77

5.30

1.34

Riley, Mykal

0.448

0.433

0.474

18.60

2.19

2.04

2.19

1.00

9.17

1.31

Lofton, Chris

0.399

0.384

0.437

19.83

2.27

1.70

1.74

1.31

5.89

1.31

 

The prospect numbers compared to prospects of the past:

  

NCAA Freshman SG prospect

FG pct.

2 Pct.

3 Pct.

P40

A/TO

RSB40

All-star

.443

.506

.346

19.9

0.9

9.7

Rotation Regular

.475

.501

.361

17.7

1.2

8.9

OJ Mayo

.442

.464

.409

23.0

0.9

7.2

Journeyman

.437

.504

.344

17.9

1.0

8.1

Eric Gordon

.433

.525

.337

23.9

0.7

5.9

Never made it

.426

.482

.344

16.5

1.1

7.6

  

NCAA Junior SG prospect

FG pct.

2 Pct.

3 Pct.

P40

A/TO

RSB40

All-star

.466

.524

.380

23.1

1.2

9.6

Chris Douglas-Roberts

.541

.578

.413

24.0

0.9

7.7

Rotation Regular

.468

.517

.377

21.1

1.3

9.1

Journeyman

.439

.497

.362

21.0

1.1

8.5

Brandon Rush

.435

.448

.419

17.8

1.2

9.1

Never made it

.442

.499

.369

19.4

1.1

7.6

  

NCAA Senior SG prospect

FG pct.

2 Pct.

3 Pct.

P40

A/TO

RSB40

All-star

.436

.523

.364

22.0

1.4

9.1

JR Giddens

.516

.557

.333

20.2

1.4

14.2

Courtney Lee

.477

.515

.397

26.7

0.9

9.7

Mark Tyndale

.488

.525

.368

17.3

1.2

10.3

DeMarcus Nelson

.490

.532

.388

17.7

1.2

9.3

Rotation Regular

.477

.533

.396

22.9

1.3

8.4

Shan Foster

.523

.610

.469

23.4

1.0

7.1

Marcellus Kemp

.449

.490

.380

24.7

1.4

7.9

Richard Roby

.477

.520

.382

20.8

0.6

10.6

Kyle Weaver

.463

.491

.364

15.7

1.6

9.9

Journeyman

.459

.525

.379

21.7

1.2

8.4

Joe Crawford

.469

.548

.364

21.8

0.8

5.3

Mykal Riley

.448

.474

.433

18.6

1.0

9.2

Never made it

.432

.496

.371

19.5

1.2

7.6

Chris Lofton

.399

.437

.384

19.8

1.3

5.9

 

Subjective rankings in order of which player I would take all other things being equal:

 

1. OJ Mayo, USC: When a player achieves rock star status in high school he’s bound to inspire strong feelings about his game both ways. There are many who resent anyone so young and so famous and will rip into someone like Mayo every chance they get. One of the causes of this resentment will often be another group of fans rallying around the player. I’ve seen this happen with Mayo. He came under some heat during the season for not quite living up to the hype. Now there are many singing his praises as possibly being in the same class as Rose and Beasley. The ironic thing is right now OJ Mayo projects as neither a star nor a bust, but nothing more than an above-average NBA SG. As the chart above shows OJ Mayo’s numbers show him to be a fairly ordinary prospect at this point in his career. He scores a lot of points, which is great, but the other numbers don’t suggest he’s anything special and if anything paint him as a player who’s weak defensively and doesn’t score efficiently enough. The biggest concern for me is his 2-point shooting pct. of .464. That’s a pretty low number, as is the 7.2 RSB40. Neither one is enough to make me think he’ll be anything resembling a bust, but both are on the soft side. I think it best here to compare him with past freshmen who did have some success after posting a weak 2-point pct.

 

Player

FG Pct.

2 Pt. Pct.

P40

A/TO

RSB40

Richard Hamilton

.386

.392

20.8

0.9

7.7